RUAP / Community / Interview with Shane Mahon
    Shane Mahon is from Montgomery County in Maryland. This is the beginning of his second semester at California State University Monterey Bay (CSUMB) as a junior. He transferred from a community school in Maryland. He is an Institute for Visual and Public Art (VPA) major but may eventually switch to a double major with ESSP (Earth Systems Science and Policy).

     Shane was a student in the Visual and Public Art class entitled Major Pro Seminar. One of the class projects involved planning and implementing an art day for Seaside High School students. A group of about forty high school students visited the Visual and Public Art buildings for this project. We asked Shane about the process he went through in planning this event with his fellow students and with RUAP, and if it gave him any insights into the relationship between community and art.
Shannon Harvey, RUAP Community Liaison, interviewed Shane Mahon:
SH: What drew you to CSUMB and VPA in particular?

SM: It was all about public art. I had some opportunities to go to (traditional) art school, but I liked the idea of social involvement. It was also relatively inexpensive, and I could save money for graduate school.
SH: What is your impression of the VPA Major Pro Seminar Class?

SM: It was a lot of work, a lot of paper writing, but also a lot of real world work like working with RUAP to get funding, (to planning committees). Some of that was no fun. But it was a really good learning experience and now that I'm done I think that was a hundred percent great, because that's what I need to know. Working with people was another tricky one. Being collaborative is a whole different mindset.
SH: Talk a little about the process of planning High School Art Day and how that went.

SM: It was difficult because none of us were experienced working within committees. We had a lot of problems because we broke up into groups early and we didn't have any sense of an overall vision. We tried to fit these different ideas together. Eventually it worked out really well and when the kids came we had a great day.
SH: Could you tell me a little about the projects your class came up with for the high school students?

SM: There were two projects. One was 2-dimensional and one was 3-dimensional. The 2-dimensional project was a self-portrait or a narrative story about yourself or your family. The 3-dimensional project was a portrait of your community or a larger segment of society. We used pastels and pencils. We had given them sketchbooks to use for the 2-dimensional (project) and that worked well. We also made a diorama with boxes that one VPA student had collected and they worked great. We went to Last Chance (a thrift shop) and got a lot of junk: little dinosaurs, keys, and toy sharks, and other found objects. We had a big pile of these and we said "take one or two of these" and that really helped motivate people, they saw something right away. We had wire and a lot of students responded to making sculpture out of the wire. People also responded well to hanging things in the boxes, taping things. We had made examples that I think were helpful. But most of the kids took off and did their own thing. Having a lot of magazines from Last Chance was really important.

SH: Do you think some of the students had a hard time expressing very personal things about themselves or their families?

SM: Some of them not at all. There may have been different levels of conscious struggle with what they were producing. This one kid in particular did this tiger that was bound. It was this really incredible image and I don't know if he meant it that way. He used a grabber (an object with a pincher at one end used to pick up things) that we had found at Last Chance. This grabber had the shape of a tiger's head and he had cut a place in the box and put the head on the box and then gave the box arms and legs and a tail and then wrapped the whole thing with rope. It was so incredible. I'm not sure if he was really conscious of what he was doing, but it was a really powerful idea. Another student had taken a really graphic image from national geographic of people covered in blood and he arranged it just beautifully. He created this collage of unrelated images from different magazines, but he fit them into the whole composition and they looked like they were all together. So he had responded to the medium really well.
SH: How was it to work with the high school students?

SM: It was really good. Most of the kids were well behaved, and the ones that weren't were mostly just non-participatory. Some of them were really into it, really grabbed the materials.
SH: What would you have done differently?

SM: The planning would be different. I would have everyone as a large group first, talk about what we were going to do, then assign groups once an overall plan has been made. We spent a lot of time doing nothing; this group was waiting for another group to start while that group waited for our group. I would have planned to do more art on the day itself; there was a little bit of dead time at the end playing games. I think a lot of people would have liked to have had fifteen more minutes on each of the art projects and not had that free time at the end. Or I think that free time should have been completely free time instead of trying to make it games; we should have just let them do whatever.
SH: How do you feel about becoming a visual and public artist?
SM: I'm feeling better about it. My first semester was hard; I was taking in a lot of new stuff. And it was a huge shift in thinking. I was used to thinking of an artist as someone who works in their studio, creating according to their own personal ideas, and maybe not really conscious of having an audience. Here the emphasis is on working collaboratively whether its with your fellow students or with members of a community in order to create something meaningful to a lot of people, not just one artist. "I was used to thinking of an artist as someone who works in their studio, creating according to their own personal ideas, and maybe not really conscious of having an audience. Here the emphasis is on working collaboratively whether its with your fellow students or with members of a community in order to create something meaningful to a lot of people, not just one artist."
I could have gone to (traditional) art school and I came here and I was really disappointed by the lack of studio time. That was the hardest thing for me to get over. If I were in art school I would have hours of studio time and here maybe 20% of the time you spend doing art. Major Pro Seminar is a good example; there's no art making other than facilitating art making. Now coming out of it and being done I see the importance and I'm glad I did it. I understand the philosophy better and I'm excited about doing it. I've always wanted to teach and I thought that this would be a good addition to any teaching skills. I'm looking forward to working in the public and maybe using it as a platform for community voice. It's an excellent thing to learn. And even if I don't work as an artist, learning how to collaborate with other people is going to be useful no matter what career path I choose.
RUAP / Community / Interview with Shane Mahon

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