Shannon Harvey's interview of Stephanie Johnson continued:
SH: What did you observe during the Seaside High School Art Day?

SJ: Well the first year that we did it, we had a different set up. We had slide projectors with a series of different images, art images, and we projected them onto the paper and then the youth from seaside high could draw what they saw, trace around it, or they could counterpoint it with something else. And the slides would change every fifteen minutes or so. And the drawings came out really nice. This time we had students working individually. They had their own pads and the students from Major Pro Seminar decided upon topics. Something about their families, the first one was a self-portrait. And the second one was about how they envisioned their futures, where they would be five years from now. And these are all topics decided upon by the VPA Major Pro Seminar students. Some of who are just out of high school not that long ago themselves. So that's really interesting to see
SH: Could you talk a little about the interaction you observed between your students and the high school students?

SJ: Sometimes they were a little bit shy, and then I'd have to go and break them up. They'd be in groups of themselves. There would be three of four VPA students and I'd pass through and I'd say, if I see you standing together again you're going to fail this course. You got to move. And then they'd see me wander around and they'd run. I'm being facetious but really, I explain to them the function of the course and the function of the activity is to invite these students and make them feel welcome. So whatever they have to do to do that. And then there are some people whose personalities are more social, and they will welcome the students, spend time with them, so it's interesting. And now that I'm thinking about it, it does break down a little bit by gender. Some of the female students that I have in Major Pro Seminar are older, and so they're kind of motherly and so it's easy for them to do the thing and interact with the high school students. For some of the men, just in high school a minute ago themselves, it's harder, because they don't know how to relate to it.

What's interesting too, is that the students from Seaside High School are fairly diverse.  Not completely; I didn't see a lot of Asian students but I did see students of European descent, African descent, Latino, Latina. And so it's fairly diverse so it's an opportunity for the VPA students to interact with students who are both of a different culture and a different age. Part of the thing that's been important for my students to experience and think about is how we invite the students. The first time we did this a year ago we talked about the ethics of invitation. That we didn't want to fall into some kind of pattern that had already been set by the art teacher or school looking upon some of the students as the bad students and some of the students as good students. That we let the students self select, and any student that wanted to come was invited. So we weren't going to get into that. Because the very students that are the "bad" students may be the ones that can benefit the most from an art experience. We spent quite a long time talking about that in the course.
SH: In what ways has this class become involved in the RUAP/ Community Arts Partnership Program?
SJ: I think it's been a very successful experience so far, I really wanted the students to have a hands-on experience. I really wanted to do something that would serve the immediate community. I'm trying to do something similar in senior capstone, which is to go over to the (Monterey High School) art academy with some of the senior capstone students and have them conduct a critique of the students' work. So again we're tying to a community agency with which we have a reciprocal relationship. "...what I like about our program is that we do things in small steps, we don't over commit, we don't say we can do something we can't. We go for deep rather than big. You can get into all kinds of trouble when you want to make a big show of something, instead of a deep, authentic connection."
Seaside is not as official, but we're tied to community agencies, we're bringing students together, doing art, doing art critique, whatever it is. And really fulfilling the mission of our program which is to reach out to those who have been marginalized and disenfranchised, and use art as a tool of social justice.

Since I know about RUAP, and I know what's going on with it, I try to weave things together throughout almost all my courses. I see that RUAP can grow, we just have to get our own independent funds. I think in the future RUAP is going to be an incredible thing. When I went to the CAPI (Community Arts Partnership Institute) conference, the people from (Portland) State University have a whole service learning department with 20,000 students. But what I like about our program is that we do things in small steps, we don't over commit, we don't say we can do something we can't. We go for deep rather than big. You can get into all kinds of trouble when you want to make a big show of something, instead of a deep, authentic connection. You want to make a big show of it, get a newspaper article, whatever it is and not really be connecting or not really be providing service or communicating. And we're not like that, we're small but we're mighty as a program. And I really appreciate that.

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